I heard a supposed native saying once about DST that has stuck with me since. Only a white man would think cutting the bottom off a blanket and sewing it on the top would give him a longer blanket.
This idea of switching the hour on a clock is the most ignorant government mandated annoyance ever conceived.
First of all, yes, counting time using a 24 hour scale is correct and natural. It is done in many professions and in most parts of the world outside the US.
Secondly, standard time aligns with the rest of the world which improves communication, business and travel.
Thirdly, there is NEVER an "extra hour" of daylight because we change the hands on our clocks, EVER. (This is proof that half of us are below average.)
The problem with these semi-annual arguments is we are arguing the wrong thing. It isn't about changing the clock, it is that we are not changing our schedule, the patterns of our lives, to align with the natural change of the seasons.
I spent much of my youth on a farm, and much of my adult life working in the mountains. The start of the day was always based on nature, not a time piece. The reason kids are waiting for the bus in the dark is because the bureaucracy is too rigid to change the start of the school day. The same applies with most professions and businesses. If you don't want to drive home in the dark, start the day earlier, and quit bitchin' about getting up early.
Whether it's Standard Time, or Daylight Time makes some, but little difference (although Standard Time gets my vote and is in all ways superior). The primary issue is the switch. That must stop. Let's hope this morning is the last time we have to do this hokie-pokie dance ever again.
I have long considered the present method of keeping clock time to be irrational, wasteful and annoying. All this changing of clocks twice a year wherever you live, and every time fly or you travel very far from your home base in the world.
Why not just have a universal time, say with Greenwich replaced with the Great Pyramid (center of the world's landmasses) as the local meridian of world time keeping. Each area would of course have its own daily meridian when the sun is directly overhead. Even today within a "time zone" the exact meridian only falls at 12 noon in a very narrow band, and most of the area in it is either before or after the actual local assigned meridian.
In each area people would know at least approximately what universal clock time is their own local noon. While that will actually be at 12 at Giza, it might be 5 or 20 or whatever where you live, but everyone in that area would know when they are expected to be at an appointment, or to have lunch, (if they wanted to have a noon lunch) and what time they are expected at work if they have a "job."
However it would be nice if people didn't have to be ruled by the clock. The biggest advantage would be you would never have to again reset your watch twice a year. Nor every time you flew in an airplane any distance for a visit, or moved across the country. You could have a chart that told you what world time was the meridian (noon time) in major cities, and after awhile you would just know what people were usually doing in the city you intended to travel to at the time you were planning to arrive there.
I like your ideas, Hat. I have considered the potential of using UTC 'universally,' and while a few would adjust seamlessly? We must sadly remember we live in a world where manufacturers have to put warning labels on irons, to advise people not to use them on clothes whilst the user is wearing them 🤦🏻
So yeah... I fear UTC and assigning meridians would be too complex for many to grasp 🤷🏻 Still, I like the way you think, and greatly appreciate your thoughts - thanks for sharing them!
Thank you Stone. Yup, there is also the fact that there would be the trouble and cost due to millions of watches, clocks and devices like computers and control gizmos that would all have to be discarded and replaced as well. Not easy to make such a worldwide change. The opportunity to make such major changes usually only happens after some other huge reset, like some kind of global cataclysm or political war and upheaval. Like being thrown back to the stone age, and having to restart civilization. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. We may be seeing such a reset in the financial system shortly, and that will not be fun for so many. True leadership having enough influence to inspire needed change can sometimes make a difference, and not necessarily political leaders. Look at what Webster did for the standardization of spelling and language, what Gandhi did for independence from the British in India. Maybe there is a chance at some point to at least get rid of this ridiculous bi-annual time change.
Understand your argument and agree but honestly I don't really care which time as long as its not changed at all!! I mean really one simple thing legislators can't even do. Doesn't need money but they'd probably but a trillion of pork in it.
Oh, I think you are onto something there - if they attached to the time-change bill a few billion for some foreign cabal (to kill civilians and launder coin), we'd have this issue resolved lickety-split... and how sickening is THAT?!
Flip-flopping the clocks twice a year is an exercise in insanity gone bonkers. The time does not change, only the measurement of it on a silly clock. What changes is human perceptions as our inner clocks can go haywire.
This not only tops my list of naturalization priorities but also gives me the perfect military history topic for my 10-day tribute to veterans. I appreciate you! I love it when synergies naturally emerge from communal support networks!
Great post! I use 24 hour time as well and have been teaching the grandkids. We did our time change last weekend. There are only a handful of us that still do this daylight time in Europe.
It's great that you're getting the youngsters acclimated to the format! If things go the way I'd like, this unnatural 12/12 paradigm will be forced out of existence by the will of the people, and maybe - just MAYBE - the 24 hour format will become the standard. And YOUR grandkids will be pre-prepped for it!
Perhaps that change will not happen in our lifetimes, but maybe during the grandkids lives? Hope does spring eternal, eh? ;-)
Interesting, but I’m not sure I buy all this. The days get shorter and longer regardless of what the clocks say. I just don’t like the sun going down at 4 pm.
It’s dumb. Also it’s a tease up here in the northern tier of US. In winter we go from 5pm sunset to 4pm. I’m ok with 4pm, but I need a gradual change. When it’s snowing, it’s dark at 3:30-3:45. Again, it’s fine, but ease me into it vs kneecapping me.
I obviously agree with you - really, REALLY dumb! I live in Missouri, so I actually enjoy the changeover here, but I can imagine how much of a shock that would be in your part of the country, especially in winter.
Whose comment was something like “Only man could could cut a section off a blanket, add it to the other end and think they’ve made a longer blanket”. Legendary comment.
I understood why, but it was always silly. Human over-adaptation. I also grew up in AZ so I never had to change clocks. You just had to be heads up when you were calling other time zones.
I enjoy the change of seasons immensely. Big fan of winter sports. So I’m done with how it’s should be.
It seems like everything they do is to separate us from nature. Surely,the year doesn’t begin in the middle of the winter? 🤔 I’m certain the calendars way off. That’s my belief. But all they is separate us…. like the idea of putting tampons in boys bathrooms?!? That’s a mind-f**k! 🙁
Two more excellent examples of how deep this psyop goes Charlotte - you are 100% correct; I almost mentioned the calendar aspect, but the article was already lengthier than I had intended LOL So I plan to cover that at a later date.
I tell ya, my friend, most people are completely unaware of the subtle items of 'programming' to which we have been subjected, all of which geared toward 'training' us to live an 'unnatural' existence. All we can do is keep spreading the word, eh? ;-)
Preaching to the choir here! I am a big advocate of leaving us in the “fall back” position. However, since moving to a rural, farming community I do see the need for as many daylight hours as possible during hay season, harvest, etc. It’s easy to miss this need if one lives in a big city or in a non-farming community. If we’re going to feed the nation (although I think this might be difficult if the cackling word salad is installed) then DST needs to remain in place.
I appreciate your thoughts on this, EK - well said! I'm going to have to mull it over before dropping a full reply, because I'm on my phone and I have a feeling this reply is going to be a longer post... and would therefore be easier to tap out with a full-sized keyboard on my computer 😁
There's that blanket. I live up in the, admittedly small, mountains of Maine. Up with the sun and down when I drop. The clock is only necessary for dealing with the rest of the world, so not much use.
I use 24 hour time for work. I’ve been doing it for close to 38 years (between a couple of different jobs that used it). My thought has always been that it was an easier way to determine when it “should” be dark or light and our bodies would act accordingly. Thanks for sharing!
Even as a kid I loved standard time. It just felt right though I could not articulate why back then. I have a very difficult time winding down at the end of my day when the sun is still out. As for the 24 hour clock that has been my go to setting because it just makes sense.
I really don't think it matters much what the numbers on the clock say. What does matter is where the sun is in the sky when you're going through various parts of your day, and that its position doesn't abruptly change twice a year.
I have worked schedules that normal 9-5ers wouldn't believe (I jest, somewhat). 14 hour night shifts, the split shift, Russian time in the Midwest, Indian time in the Pacific northwest, London time in Arizona. I am used to settling into rhythms in which the sun rises halfway through my "day", sets as I am waking up, rises right around bedtime.
But twice a year, sometimes more often than that depending on the job and the vagaries of international differences in daylight disruption schedules, I am fucked with by this lunacy and spend weeks afterward fatigued and disoriented.
What matters I think is your rhythms being disrupted, more than when they are fixed. Some people, probably most, rely on the sun to set their clocks and their moods, but even if you don't, daylight disruption will fuck you up.
I am all for sticking with standard time. Now if we could just get it done instead of talking about it every year...*sigh*
Bravo for that, Kerry! Could NOT agree more! 💯🙇🏻
I heard a supposed native saying once about DST that has stuck with me since. Only a white man would think cutting the bottom off a blanket and sewing it on the top would give him a longer blanket.
I have heard that as well (maybe from you LOL), and it's a fascinating premise 😁
This idea of switching the hour on a clock is the most ignorant government mandated annoyance ever conceived.
First of all, yes, counting time using a 24 hour scale is correct and natural. It is done in many professions and in most parts of the world outside the US.
Secondly, standard time aligns with the rest of the world which improves communication, business and travel.
Thirdly, there is NEVER an "extra hour" of daylight because we change the hands on our clocks, EVER. (This is proof that half of us are below average.)
The problem with these semi-annual arguments is we are arguing the wrong thing. It isn't about changing the clock, it is that we are not changing our schedule, the patterns of our lives, to align with the natural change of the seasons.
I spent much of my youth on a farm, and much of my adult life working in the mountains. The start of the day was always based on nature, not a time piece. The reason kids are waiting for the bus in the dark is because the bureaucracy is too rigid to change the start of the school day. The same applies with most professions and businesses. If you don't want to drive home in the dark, start the day earlier, and quit bitchin' about getting up early.
Whether it's Standard Time, or Daylight Time makes some, but little difference (although Standard Time gets my vote and is in all ways superior). The primary issue is the switch. That must stop. Let's hope this morning is the last time we have to do this hokie-pokie dance ever again.
This comment is absolutely fantastic! Well said!
I have long considered the present method of keeping clock time to be irrational, wasteful and annoying. All this changing of clocks twice a year wherever you live, and every time fly or you travel very far from your home base in the world.
Why not just have a universal time, say with Greenwich replaced with the Great Pyramid (center of the world's landmasses) as the local meridian of world time keeping. Each area would of course have its own daily meridian when the sun is directly overhead. Even today within a "time zone" the exact meridian only falls at 12 noon in a very narrow band, and most of the area in it is either before or after the actual local assigned meridian.
In each area people would know at least approximately what universal clock time is their own local noon. While that will actually be at 12 at Giza, it might be 5 or 20 or whatever where you live, but everyone in that area would know when they are expected to be at an appointment, or to have lunch, (if they wanted to have a noon lunch) and what time they are expected at work if they have a "job."
However it would be nice if people didn't have to be ruled by the clock. The biggest advantage would be you would never have to again reset your watch twice a year. Nor every time you flew in an airplane any distance for a visit, or moved across the country. You could have a chart that told you what world time was the meridian (noon time) in major cities, and after awhile you would just know what people were usually doing in the city you intended to travel to at the time you were planning to arrive there.
I like your ideas, Hat. I have considered the potential of using UTC 'universally,' and while a few would adjust seamlessly? We must sadly remember we live in a world where manufacturers have to put warning labels on irons, to advise people not to use them on clothes whilst the user is wearing them 🤦🏻
So yeah... I fear UTC and assigning meridians would be too complex for many to grasp 🤷🏻 Still, I like the way you think, and greatly appreciate your thoughts - thanks for sharing them!
Thank you Stone. Yup, there is also the fact that there would be the trouble and cost due to millions of watches, clocks and devices like computers and control gizmos that would all have to be discarded and replaced as well. Not easy to make such a worldwide change. The opportunity to make such major changes usually only happens after some other huge reset, like some kind of global cataclysm or political war and upheaval. Like being thrown back to the stone age, and having to restart civilization. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. We may be seeing such a reset in the financial system shortly, and that will not be fun for so many. True leadership having enough influence to inspire needed change can sometimes make a difference, and not necessarily political leaders. Look at what Webster did for the standardization of spelling and language, what Gandhi did for independence from the British in India. Maybe there is a chance at some point to at least get rid of this ridiculous bi-annual time change.
Thanks for this. Makes sense to me!
You're most welcome, happy you enjoyed it 🙂
Understand your argument and agree but honestly I don't really care which time as long as its not changed at all!! I mean really one simple thing legislators can't even do. Doesn't need money but they'd probably but a trillion of pork in it.
Oh, I think you are onto something there - if they attached to the time-change bill a few billion for some foreign cabal (to kill civilians and launder coin), we'd have this issue resolved lickety-split... and how sickening is THAT?!
Good call, Luc... *salute
Flip-flopping the clocks twice a year is an exercise in insanity gone bonkers. The time does not change, only the measurement of it on a silly clock. What changes is human perceptions as our inner clocks can go haywire.
Exactly right, Crixcyon - agreed 100%!
This not only tops my list of naturalization priorities but also gives me the perfect military history topic for my 10-day tribute to veterans. I appreciate you! I love it when synergies naturally emerge from communal support networks!
And you nailed it, too! ;-) Synergy scores big today :-)
Great post! I use 24 hour time as well and have been teaching the grandkids. We did our time change last weekend. There are only a handful of us that still do this daylight time in Europe.
It's great that you're getting the youngsters acclimated to the format! If things go the way I'd like, this unnatural 12/12 paradigm will be forced out of existence by the will of the people, and maybe - just MAYBE - the 24 hour format will become the standard. And YOUR grandkids will be pre-prepped for it!
Perhaps that change will not happen in our lifetimes, but maybe during the grandkids lives? Hope does spring eternal, eh? ;-)
Thank you Stone ✊
That’s all I want before I leave this planet is a better world for ALL of the children. Free of western depravity 🙏
Interesting, but I’m not sure I buy all this. The days get shorter and longer regardless of what the clocks say. I just don’t like the sun going down at 4 pm.
It’s dumb. Also it’s a tease up here in the northern tier of US. In winter we go from 5pm sunset to 4pm. I’m ok with 4pm, but I need a gradual change. When it’s snowing, it’s dark at 3:30-3:45. Again, it’s fine, but ease me into it vs kneecapping me.
I obviously agree with you - really, REALLY dumb! I live in Missouri, so I actually enjoy the changeover here, but I can imagine how much of a shock that would be in your part of the country, especially in winter.
Whose comment was something like “Only man could could cut a section off a blanket, add it to the other end and think they’ve made a longer blanket”. Legendary comment.
I understood why, but it was always silly. Human over-adaptation. I also grew up in AZ so I never had to change clocks. You just had to be heads up when you were calling other time zones.
I enjoy the change of seasons immensely. Big fan of winter sports. So I’m done with how it’s should be.
It seems like everything they do is to separate us from nature. Surely,the year doesn’t begin in the middle of the winter? 🤔 I’m certain the calendars way off. That’s my belief. But all they is separate us…. like the idea of putting tampons in boys bathrooms?!? That’s a mind-f**k! 🙁
Two more excellent examples of how deep this psyop goes Charlotte - you are 100% correct; I almost mentioned the calendar aspect, but the article was already lengthier than I had intended LOL So I plan to cover that at a later date.
I tell ya, my friend, most people are completely unaware of the subtle items of 'programming' to which we have been subjected, all of which geared toward 'training' us to live an 'unnatural' existence. All we can do is keep spreading the word, eh? ;-)
Preaching to the choir here! I am a big advocate of leaving us in the “fall back” position. However, since moving to a rural, farming community I do see the need for as many daylight hours as possible during hay season, harvest, etc. It’s easy to miss this need if one lives in a big city or in a non-farming community. If we’re going to feed the nation (although I think this might be difficult if the cackling word salad is installed) then DST needs to remain in place.
I appreciate your thoughts on this, EK - well said! I'm going to have to mull it over before dropping a full reply, because I'm on my phone and I have a feeling this reply is going to be a longer post... and would therefore be easier to tap out with a full-sized keyboard on my computer 😁
I await with baited breath 😁
There's that blanket. I live up in the, admittedly small, mountains of Maine. Up with the sun and down when I drop. The clock is only necessary for dealing with the rest of the world, so not much use.
I use 24 hour time for work. I’ve been doing it for close to 38 years (between a couple of different jobs that used it). My thought has always been that it was an easier way to determine when it “should” be dark or light and our bodies would act accordingly. Thanks for sharing!
Even as a kid I loved standard time. It just felt right though I could not articulate why back then. I have a very difficult time winding down at the end of my day when the sun is still out. As for the 24 hour clock that has been my go to setting because it just makes sense.
I really don't think it matters much what the numbers on the clock say. What does matter is where the sun is in the sky when you're going through various parts of your day, and that its position doesn't abruptly change twice a year.
I have worked schedules that normal 9-5ers wouldn't believe (I jest, somewhat). 14 hour night shifts, the split shift, Russian time in the Midwest, Indian time in the Pacific northwest, London time in Arizona. I am used to settling into rhythms in which the sun rises halfway through my "day", sets as I am waking up, rises right around bedtime.
But twice a year, sometimes more often than that depending on the job and the vagaries of international differences in daylight disruption schedules, I am fucked with by this lunacy and spend weeks afterward fatigued and disoriented.
What matters I think is your rhythms being disrupted, more than when they are fixed. Some people, probably most, rely on the sun to set their clocks and their moods, but even if you don't, daylight disruption will fuck you up.